©1998 Larry Huntsperger Peninsula Bible Fellowship

11/15/98 More Talk On Talking ...

11/15/98 More Talk on Talking

Two weeks ago we ran down a little rabbit trail
      that I don't think we quite got to the end of,
            so this morning I want to
                  finish what we started.

We were talking about
      the way in which our Lord
            has designed some of us as talkers
                  and some as nontalkers.

If you weren't with us then
      a few words or reintroduction
            will help.

We got into the whole area
      because we've been talking
            for a number of weeks now
                  about the futility of attempting to gain a correct perspective on ourselves
by turning to the people around us
      for explanations
            or insights into our own significance
                  or worth
                        or value.

If we want to trace this problem
      back to its origin
            we need to go all the way back
                  to the Garden of Eden.

Prior to Adam's sin
      his unity with God
            and his open communication with his Creator
provided Adam with the perfect understanding
      of who he was
            and why he had value
                  and why his Creator had brought him into being.

He knew he had been formed by God
      in the image of God
            for friendship with God.

But then, through Adam's rebellion against God
      that union between himself
            and His Creator was shattered.

And from that time on
      we human beings have been frantically looking for
            some other voice,
                  some other mirror,
                        some other means by which
                              we can affirm our worth
and find some measure of peace with ourselves.

And you know what we do, don't you.
      We spend all day, everyday
            asking other human beings
                  what they think of us.
Oh, we don't use words to ask the questions,
But we listen to the way they talk to us.
      We see if they are willing to listen to us.
            We watch their expressions
                  and carefully scrutinize the tone of their voice to see if they like us.

EX. I remember when my daughter
            was three or four years old
            my wife, Sandee had said something to Joni from another room in the house.
Joni paused for a moment
      before she answered,
                  and then she called back,
      "Mommy, would you say that again - I couldn't tell if that was a sad voice,
      a mad voice,
            or a glad voice."

Where did she learn that?
      She didn't learn it.
            It is built into her from birth.
We enter this world
      with our focus glued to those around us,
            looking to their responses
                  in order to tell us who we are.

And I mentioned two weeks ago
      that this little scheme of ours
            to attempt to figure out who we are
                  by looking at those around us
                        has two major flaws.

First of all,
      those around us don't know who we are.

They did not create us,
      they did not create and form our identity,
      and they have no knowledge of our unique,
      special design.

And second,
      not only do they not know who we are,
            but they don't really care who we are
because they, like us, are frantically trying to figure out their own life
      by looking at us.

And then I offered just one example
      of why we have so much trouble
            understanding ourselves
                  by looking to those around us.

I mentioned that there seem to be
      two distinctly different groups of people in the world,
            talkers and nontalkers,
and the two groups are almost incapable
      of correctly understanding one another.

And just to refresh your memory,
      I offered the following descriptions
            of the two groups.

The talkers use speech as their primary tool
            for emotional contact with their world.

They can and do articulate their feelings
      and their thoughts quickly and easily.

But it's more than just that.
      They refill their emotional tanks
            through verbal communication.
The greatest terror of the talker
      is silence.
            Three minutes of absolute silence
                  is a terrifying experience for them.

If a talker is with another person
      and a silence of more than a few seconds occurs
            the talker will find something to say -
                  anything!

They'll talk about the pattern of the carpet,
      or the height of the tree in the front yard,
            or the population of Anchorage,
and they urgently want
      verbal response back
            from the people around them.

And here is the important thing to remember about the talkers -
      when they talk
            they are not really talking
                  about whatever they're talking about.

When the talkers talk
      they are really asking two urgent questions:
1. Are you there for me?
2. Do you care about me?

In other words,
      they are using a flood of verbal communication
      to continually validate themselves.

That, of course, is why silence is such a terrifying thing for the talker -
      silence while in the presence of another person
            gives the talker the message:
"I don't matter,
            I'm being emotionally abandoned,                   I'm not loved or accepted."

Then there is the other half of the world -
      the nontalkers.

Whereas the talkers are refueled through talking with others,
      the nontalkers are drained and exhausted by it.

For the nontalker,
      not only is silence not an enemy,
            it is actually a friend.
Silence is like a warm, cozy, soft blanket
            into which a person can snuggle.

Silence is safe.
      Silence is friendly.

The nontalkers are drained by social contact,
      and they must have blocks of isolation
            built into their lives on a regular basis
                  or they quickly become emotionally exhausted.

One of the best ways to communicate love to a nontalker
      is to be with them
            without requiring them to talk.
Nontalkers stand in awe of the talker's ability to think of so many things to say.

And, when nontalkers are with talkers,
      they tend to view themselves
      as rather dull,
            uninteresting people by contrast,
sort of like God forgot
      to equip them with a personality gene.

I personally think
      it is almost impossible
            for the talker and nontalker groups
                  to understand one another.

Talkers will always believe
      that nontalkers really could plunge into the exciting world of verbal communication
            if only they would try a little harder.
They look at it as a growth issue,
      a will issue,
            a try-a-little-harder-and-you-can-do-this-too issue.

And apart from the work of God in their lives, nontalkers are no better.
      They will have just as much difficulty
            accepting the talkers in their world.
They will have a strong tendency to look at the talkers around them
      as compulsive noise machines
            running in terror from the great Silence Dragon pursuing them.
The nontalkers cling to a secret hope
      that the talkers in their lives will eventually run out of words
      or find just a few seconds of inner harmony with themselves
            so that the endless flood of words will cease
      and the world can finally know
            just a few moments of peace and quiet.

That's where we were two weeks ago.
After the service was over that morning
      I had a great conversation
            with a husband and wife in our fellowship.

I had made the comment during the teaching
      that, even though the two groups
            have a terrible time trying to understand one another,
                  yet they also tend to marry one another.

And in my conversation with this couple
      they mentioned that they were actually
            both talkers.

I said that was interesting because
      Sandee and I were both nontalkers.

When I said that
      the husband asked me what I thought
            was a tremendously insightful question.

He said, "So what, when the two of you go to bed
      do you just say, "Goodnight" and go to sleep?"

I said, "Yes, as a matter of fact, that's exactly what we do."

Then he said the two of them will often talk for several hours after they get into bed.
      In fact, he said he has sometimes caught himself talking on
            even after his partner has finally drifted off to sleep.

If I had to talk for two hours after going to bed
      I would have died of ulcers
            or high blood pressure years ago.
As a nontalker,
      I look at being able to say "Goodnight" and knowing that
            no further verbal communication is required of me for eight hours
                  as being my reward
                        for having communicated faithfully all day.

Now, the reason I've brought us all back to this again
      is because I realized that we should have spent a little more time
            talking about how our Lord
                  seeks to change our outlook on
                        and relationship to these two groups
      once His Spirit begins to work in our lives.

And let me start by stating what we already know -
      the two groups tend to react to one another
            and view one another
                  as flawed or defective.

Talkers tend to look at nontalkers
      as people who just need to try harder to communicate,
      and nontalkers tend to look at talkers
            as people who really need to just shut up for a little while.

And let me just mention
      the natural flesh responses
            of the two groups to one another.
In the flesh
      the talkers will tend to try to pump the significant nontalkers in their lives with questions,
      trying to force them to communicate,
            an approach that will nearly always fail dismally.

If the pumping brings any response at all
      it will be limited to one line
            or one word answers.
"Yes."
      "No."
            "Don't know."
                  "Whatever you think."
Rarely does pumping produce any genuine communication
      unless you get the nontalker so angry
            that he blasts out in a brief, intense rage.

And the nontalker's basic flesh response
      to the talkers around him
            is to withdraw into an even deeper silence than he would normally have.

Nontalkers are great for the "silence treatment". It is their ultimate revenge
      because it makes them feel
            both secure
                  and in control,
and at the same time
      drives the talker they are angry at crazy.

Obviously, neither response
      is either productive
            or healthy for the relationship.

But in this area,
      as in all areas of our life,
            God's presence within us
                  can bring tremendous changes in our lives.

He does not alter His basic design of us -
      He doesn't try to turn talkers into nontalkers
            and nontalkers into talkers.

But He seeks to free us from the negative aspects of our natural personality traits.

And let me give you the overview in a single statement
      and then I'll try to explain how it works out in our lives.

First, with all of us, He seeks to establish within us an unshakable security
      in our own unique identity
            by taking our eyes off of those around us
                  and placing them upon Him,
enabling us to hear the sure and certain voice of our Creator telling us who we are.

Second,
      He seeks to equip each of us
            to serve as a crucial confirmation voice in the lives of those around us,
      confirming in them
            the truth concerning their own unique value to God.

For both talkers and nontalkers alike
      that process must start
            by our listening to our Lord
                  about who we are.

Until we have heard Him telling us about His love for us,
      until we have felt His arms around us,
            hugging us,
                  confirming our value to Him,
we are not able to affirm anyone else around us.

As long as I need you
      in order to affirm me
            I am not yet ready to tell you the truth about yourself
      because I still view you as simply a means to a desperate end -
      "Tell me I have value...Tell me I have value...Tell me I have value."

But once I have heard the voice of my God
      telling me the truth about myself
            I am free to tell you the truth too.

Then, once that truth becomes a growing reality in our lives,
      we can begin telling those around us the truth.

And this is the way it works.
For the nontalkers
      God begins to give us ears
            to hear the real questions
                  the talkers in our lives are asking
                        with all of their talking.

Remember what they are?
1. Are you there for me?
2. Do you care about me?

Then the Lord will seek to show us
      how we can answer those questions.

And here is the one practical "HOW TO"
      I want to offer you
            in this whole business: invest active listening in the person we are with.

Active listening is very different
      from simply allowing the talker
            to drone on and on and on in our presence.

Active listening demands an act of our will.
It is choosing to focus our mind
      and our attention
            on the person who's talking.
It involves eye contact
      and body language that says,
            "I'm really listening to you."
Sometimes it involves a few carefully place questions:
"How did you feel about that?"
      "How did they respond when you said that?"
            "What do you plan to do now?"

It is all too common for talkers
      to live with the assumption
            that nobody's really listening to them.
The more they talk
      the less people listen.
Choosing to actively listen to a talker
      can sometimes have a powerful impact on them
            and it will always communicate genuine concern.

And, then, how about the talker's relationship with the nontalker?
      What does God seek to accomplish there?

Well, the first huge step
      is bringing the talker to the point
            where he can accept the nontalker in his silence -
      honestly believing that the nontalker's silence is not a flaw,
            and its not a personality defect.

We don't have time to dig into it today,
      but I find it fascinating that both Paul
            and Peter divide spiritual gifts
                  into two broad categories:
speaking gifts,
      and serving gifts...

And then, second, the Lord will also
      seek to develop in the talker
            that same ability to actively listen.

And this will sometimes mean
      that the talker will have to enter
            the terrifying world of silence.

It means the talker
      will have to value real communication
            more than they value the security
                  of the sound of their own voice.

It means the talker
      will need to learn how to ask one question
            and then keep silent
                  until the nontalker
                        has responded,
and then NOT bombard the nontalker
      with their own answer to the question.

And please note this is radically different
      from attempting to "pump" the other person.
Pumping attempts to turn the nontalker
      into a talker
            by bombarding them with questions.
What we are talking about here
      involves learning how to encourage
            and at times guide the nontalker
                  through the frightening world
                        of verbal communication.

I can remember a number of years ago
      being with a nontalker I knew well
            for an hour or more with almost nothing being said between us.
                  And then all of the sudden
                        the nontalker said just one sentence.
"Larry, I'm really hurting!"
And I suddenly realized
      this nontalker felt as though
            he had said everything that needed to be said in that one short burst.

It fascinates me that both talkers
      and nontalkers bring the same exact
            assumption and fear
                  to their communication with one another:

The assumption is this:
"This person doesn't really want to hear what I think
      or what I feel
            or what I have to say."

The talker handles that fear
      by piling on more and more and more words.

The nontalker handles that fear
      by saying nothing.

True, active listening is often the greatest gift we can ever give one another.

And then just a word about the growth points
      I believe God will offer to both groups
            as they look at themselves.

For the talker
      I believe the Lord will seek to bring the talker to the point where they will stop talking
      and start communicating.

By that I mean they will stop hiding behind their wall of words
      and risk entering the other person's world.

And for the nontalker
      I believe the Spirit of God will seek to bring them
            to the point where they will stop hiding behind their wall of silence
                  and risk sharing themselves
                        in those relationships in which they feel safe.

The root problem, of course,
      is the same for both groups:
both are hiding for fear of rejection.
The talker hides behind his words,
      the nontalker behind his silence.
And for both
      healing takes place
            as they risk venturing out into the open.