GAIL RAIBOURN BLANCETT - the TURNER DNA COORDINATOR http://www.familytreedna.com Results of the "Uncle C." Turner's DNA should be noted in about 4 weeks since this was "the short 12 marker test." According to Gail Blancett, the DNA for Jim's relative is E3B and NOBODY in the whole TURNER DNA PROJECT NATIONWIDE so far has the same genetic make up. Until now, that is. As a result of the recent test, Linda's relative shows the same E3B markers as Jim's relative. ------------------------------------Oct. 28, 2006--------------------------------------------- Family Tree DNA Y-DNA12 Test Match 12 for 12 An exact 12 marker match has been found between you (Uncle C) and another person in the Family Tree DNA database. DNA tests confirm that the two people who offered samples are descended from the same ancestor, that being John (1805) Turner and wife Mary A. Turner (1799). John and Mary had two sons John E. '38 and James H. '26. These two sons are the ancestors of the two DNA donors. DNA test results were back from the lab and "Uncle C" from Linda's family matched 12/12 that of Jim's family member who did the test to document his line of Turners. The match is important in that it not only confirms that the result for Jim's Turners is valid, but that Linda's line of Turners descended from Absolam Fox Turner, and if there was any question as to whether he was really a Turner and not a Fox, it can be put to rest. Jim's Turners have a perfect paper trail back to John (1805) and Mary (1799) Turner of Cocke Co., TN. The paper trail back to Absolam Fox Turner was clouded by what appears to be the way that the census taker listed him as Absolam Fox on the 1860 Census. With the perfect 12/12 match to Jim's Turners, and especially because it is a much less common Haplogroup (E3b), it can be said with no uncertainty that Absolam Fox Turner was a Turner and not a Fox. These Turners are the only E3b Turners we have at the present time. Combining the regular research records (the court case, census, etc.), Absolom's father, James Howard or Howell Turner clearly was a brother of Jim's ancestor John E. Turner (1838). If the haplogroup for these Turners had been one of the very common ones, then the 12 marker test might not have been enough to prove the connection. But, it is the combination of the less common haplogroup PLUS the records that allows it to be able to said that the 12 marker test is sufficient to prove the connection. The results and the lineage (minus any living person's information) will be added to the Turner DNA Project's website in the near future. ------ Note: Permission offered for the above posting by Linda Y.